Help, limiting AC Voltage after bridge rectifier

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Jun. 05, 2025

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Help, limiting AC Voltage after bridge rectifier

Hello guys,

I have in my posession some 3W LED's that are designed to work on mains voltage (230V) in series with a resistor (1 resistor per 1 LED).
I've done a few test boards with them and they light up very well, but they have some noticeable flicker.
Another problem is, that one LED paired with a 1,6 kOhm resistor will be 2.8W at 220V but will be just 2.1W at 210V (just an example, there are different resistor values for different voltages and desired power outputs). And where I am using these LEDs, the voltage is very unstable, sometimes goes as low as 190V, and then the LEDs work at only ¬1.2W
I think that by adding a bridge rectifier, that would greatly reduce the flicker, and will increase the voltage way over 230V.
And I need a way to limit the voltage after the rectifier to steady 220V (or 210V doesn't matter as long as it is stable, I can use the correct resistor ratings to get the desired output).

What would be the best way to limit the Voltage after the bridge rectifier? Hi, spec, and thanks for your response.

So the LEDs I am using are these ones:
https://octa-electronics.com/web/files/product_groups/53/files/Data Sheet BA2 v1.2__.pdf

They are not the standard LEDs as you see.
Here is another document for the recommended resistor values to use with them:
https://octa-electronics.com/web/files/product_groups/53/files/BA2_Recommended Resistors Values-V1.1.pdf

My experiments with those show slightly different results, but generally 1,5/1,6/1,8 kOhm are fine.

The wiring is pretty simple. A resistor is connected to the anode, and you plug the whole thing to mains power. An array is made by connecting more of these blocks in parallel.

I've made a couple of small lights (using just 3 LED's) to light up my CNC router and work table. I also made one larger board with 24 of those LEDs.
I don't have a picture of them now. But I've found a picture of the first board a created for 3 of those LEDs.

As you see it is pretty simple. The two leads from mains power go to the bottom left and right. The lumpy piece of copper left in the middle has been left out to serve as heat spreader. The bottoms of the LEDs are soldered to it. Hi,

Yes i agree, you cant use a rectifier with this LED. It's made for AC not DC so you must feed it with AC if you want to get the full brightness.
If you did use DC you'd have to use a capacitor with that, and then you'd have to be careful not to over power it with too high of an average DC voltage. Max power then would be about 2.5 watts but only half of the LEDs inside would be lighting up. So best bet is to just follow the recommended hook up which is with just one resistor, looks like ohms at 230vac. ohms would allow it to run a little bit cooler. Might get away with a 1/2 watt resistor but check that first. Thanks guys.
I myself didn't see this small schematic on page 8 I thought that I shouldn't connect those LEDs in series, but I'll give it a try. Strange why the resistors are not shown on this schematic. Does it mean that I should power them without a resistor?
And yes, TRIAC dimmers do work with this
As for resistors, It was hard, but I finally found some 3W SMD resistors, they are pretty expensive though. I should probably give it a try with 1W resistors, if it works it will be a lot cheaper.

And as for the low voltage issue.... Can I place something to limit the voltage to 190V? This way I would get equal light output, when Hooked up to a propper 230V mains, or a unstable one that fluctuates from day to day. Yes, It will be dim. I already saw this effect on the crappy mains in my storage yard.
But I can get it to work at higher brightness with a lower Ohm resistor.

The idea is to make these lamps work equally well on 190V and 230V. So if I am able to limit the voltage to 190V and the LEDs have resistors for this voltage, the lamps should light up equally well on 190V/200V/210V mains and on 230V mains.

And what can I use to limit the flicker? Even at 230V/50Hz it is well noticeable. And when hooked to 190V with slightly lower frequency (~42Hz) the flicker is awful!

P.S. Here is my design for the PCB with the 24 LEDs. the traecs and the solder mask. The large circles in three rows (top, middle and bottom) are for bolting holes.
Hi, spec, and thanks for your response.

So the LEDs I am using are these ones:
https://octa-electronics.com/web/files/product_groups/53/files/Data Sheet BA2 v1.2__.pdf

They are not the standard LEDs as you see.
Here is another document for the recommended resistor values to use with them:
https://octa-electronics.com/web/files/product_groups/53/files/BA2_Recommended Resistors Values-V1.1.pdf

My experiments with those show slightly different results, but generally 1,5/1,6/1,8 kOhm are fine.

The wiring is pretty simple. A resistor is connected to the anode, and you plug the whole thing to mains power. An array is made by connecting more of these blocks in parallel.

I've made a couple of small lights (using just 3 LED's) to light up my CNC router and work table. I also made one larger board with 24 of those LEDs.
I don't have a picture of them now. But I've found a picture of the first board a created for 3 of those LEDs.
View attachment
As you see it is pretty simple. The two leads from mains power go to the bottom left and right. The lumpy piece of copper left in the middle has been left out to serve as heat spreader. The bottoms of the LEDs are soldered to it.

Hi Zeox,

Thanks for the above information- very useful.

I have looked at various ways to do what you want and it seems to boil down to two main approaches:
(1) Replace the resistor in series with the LED string with a constant current generator
(2) Drive the LED strings (with resistors in series as normal) from an inverter which would provide a constant 240V AC power line.

As far as I can tell at this stage, option (1) would require 2 x MOSFETS, 2 x BJT (normal transistors), 2 x rectifier diodes, 2 x Zener diodes, and 6 resistors.

Option (2) can have a few implementations but the simplest/easiest would be to have a mains to DC power supply to produce a stable 12V. This 12V would then power an inverter which would produce a constant 250V AC to power your LED strings.

Both the power supply and inverter are freely available standard items at a reasonable price.

A square wave inverter should eliminate the LED flicker that you mentioned.

If you are interested in either of these options please let us know.

spec WARNING: The circuit in this post involves dangerous voltages. You must observed safety precautions. Never touch the circuit when the power is applied. If you are not experienced in high voltage electronics do not attempt to build this circuit.

POST ISSUE 3 of _02_07

Hi Zeox,

Below is the schematic for a constant current LED driver:

NOTES
(1) The circuit above will drive a constant 24 mA into one single LED unit.
(2) The two LED strings shown on the schematic represent the innards of one of your LED units.
(3) Constant current is a technical term and does not mean that the current will always be present but the circuit will ensure that each LED string in the LED unit will get a constant current and longer during each half cycle of the mains supply.
(4) The circuit will provide a constant current irrespective of the mains voltage variations, within limits of course.
(5) The constant current is defined by the formula, Ik = 0.6V/R2, where Ik is in Amps and R3 is in Ohms.
(6) The NMOSFET will get warm so should be in free cool air. A heatsink is advisable.
(7) The NMOSFET is a high-voltage, low-threshold voltage type- no other type of MOSFET should be used without checking with the designer.
(8) There are safety aspects to the circuit and the fuse must not be omitted.
(9) Q2 can be pretty much any small-signal transistor but the higher the voltage, VCEo, the better. In addition to the ideal transistor (BC546) shown on the schematic, other transistors can be used: BC547/8/9, 2N, PN, BC337, BC182/3/4, BC107/8/9
(10) If you would like to drive more than one LED unit in parrallel with this circuit we can discuss how that can be done, but ideally one constant current driver for each LED unit would give the best performance.

DATASHEETS

Attachments

  • Vish_1N_thru_1N.pdf
  • Fair_BC546-BC550_NBJT.pdf
  • Fair_FCP190N60_NM_600V_20.2A_200mR_600mDCW_20VGS_3.5VGT_TO220_$$.pdf

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