How to Save Money When Buying Hydraulic Threading Machine

NMO Redpower
Posted 6/12/ 14:31 (#)
Subject: Hydraulic hose machine


MOI'm looking at getting my own hose machine. I know I'm going to have several dollars tied up in inventory but trips to town aren't free either. Looking at a couple options, one is Discount Hydraulic hose. Seems like several people on here have used them and got along good. How is their hose holding up a few years down the road? My tillage equipment sits out so I want hose that weathers good. The other option is a company that was at the farm show called Air Hydraulics. Anyone ever deal with them? They are actually a little cheaper than Discount and they have a really good deal on a hose machine. They sell their own brand hose too. I'm all about saving money but don't want to cheap out either. Looks like I could save a pile making my own though. Thanks for any thoughts!

45 miles south spingfield il.I guess I'm the odd man here. I bought a weatherhead machine and lots of large fittings at auction . I purchased hose and those fittings that were used the most from discount hydraulics. One end would be a good crimp =, the next "didn't look right" I messed with this for quite awhile, never sure if hose would hold or not.
I got frustrated and purchased a gates system- lots of money but feel very confident with what I make now. I also read where everybody gets along fine with the cheaper fittings but did not work for me. Good luck however you decide to go.

NW Wisconsin+1 for Gates. Great hose system.

Dawn Mo I use Parker reusable ends made all my own hoses even fixed a dozer tilt hose in field with a ax and 2- 12" creasants and a pocket knife. No skive fittings and hose works better with a vise and electric impac wrench Just kept 3/8 single wire and 1/2 double wire hose and male fittings with adapters

Southern Lower MichiganWith the machines that use a disc stop to set the crimp, you are usually tied to their fittings, and hose. There is some interchange with other brands.
The Adjustable machines, can be used with just about any brand, of hose, and fittings.
I have a Aeroquip , and have not had a problem with any fitting crimp yet. (except for the ones that I used the wrong die, and over crimped,crushing the center tube )
I have been using Discount for the last 10 years. When I first started most of the fittings, were Weatherhead, and Kurt. now most of them are Made in China.
But so far I haven't had any problems.
Joe


Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo Have you checked Baum Hydraulics? They sell a cheap starter kit for what you are wanting to do. If you buy two rolls of hose, the machine and fittings are really cheap.Gates 707 machine, Gates Mega fittings, and mostly Gates two wire hose. Quarter inch thru inch and half. With proper info, can do about any hose.


Callao MissouriSpend 2k with A&I they will toss in the crimper. About the best way to get started as far as I am concerned. Jon


Nevada, IowaCould you tell me more about these? Is there an assortment or kit available through some source. I live very close to a machinery dealership but it's expensive and time consuming. me if you'd rather.

Wallis, TX

The only downside to an adjustable machine like mentioned, is they can under crimp a fitting and have the hose fail catastrophically.

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FYI we went with Parker, for us it was a better deal from the distributor than anyone else.

Dawn Mo The ends cost about 1.5 times of the cost of crimp ends The first ones I got were on a David Bradley Loader made in the 50's The only ones I have had fail is on old hose that I did not cut off enough and the leak was still in the hose. I used mostly 3/8 single (some times less than $1/ft ) wire because it is rated at psi and worked for and 700 versatile You screw the top piece down on the hose then clamp in vise and screw the thread part into the other until seated works better if they have some oil on them
Sussefull Farming had a person try a kitt that was a nylon braided hose a few months back. Stated it was a new thing. Baum Iron has them and about any hose supplier should have them.

sw NebraskaI have a Weatherhead T 420- I bought on ebay and a bunch of fittings with it at the time and never have had a problem. Restocked this year with fittings and some hose from Discount hydraulic hose. I bought a roll of their abrasion resistant premium 1/2 inch hose and blew a fitting off. It is slightly smaller in diameter. I gave them a call and within an hour they had a crimp spec with the correct spacer and die and it works great now. It is really cookbook easy to make good hoses with a Weatherhead and every NAPA store around here stocks fittings if you need something you don't have. The simplicity and ease of use sealed the deal for me although I like the Gates and Parker systems also.JDEEREMAN
Posted 6/13/ 13:11 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: Hydraulic hose machine

Hydraulic hose fittings may seem like a small component in a much bigger system, but their importance is monumental. They play a critical role in ensuring your hydraulic system is safe, efficient, and reliable. Making the right choice for your fittings isn’t just about picking a connector off the shelf—it’s about considering various factors to ensure compatibility, performance, and long-term success. With our helpful advice, you’ll know what to consider before buying hydraulic hose fittings.

Compatibility With Existing Systems

The first step is ensuring the fittings are compatible with your existing hydraulic system. A mismatch in fitting style or threading can lead to leakage, system failures, and wasted money. The sizing and type of fitting isn’t the only factor in question. You must also consider the thread type, which could vary depending on the manufacturer or industry standard:

• Thread compatibility: Hydraulic fittings come in various thread types, such as NPT, BSP, SAE, or metric. Thread type mismatches can lead to improper sealing.
• System design: Does your system use straight-thread or tapered-thread fittings? Consider this carefully before making a choice.
• Fluid type: Ensure your chosen fitting material is chemically compatible with the fluids your hydraulic system uses. Some fittings may degrade when exposed to specific fluids.

Double-check manufacturer recommendations and specifications before settling on a purchase to ensure seamless integration.

2. Material Quality Matters

Not all hydraulic fittings are created equal. The materials used to manufacture fittings significantly influence their durability, performance, and cost-efficiency. The most used materials include:

• Carbon steel: Popular for its strength and affordability, carbon steel is commonly used in general-purpose applications. However, it might not be suitable for environments with high corrosion risks.
• Stainless steel: Known for its corrosion resistance, stainless steel fittings are ideal for harsh or marine environments where exposure to chemicals, moisture, or saltwater is a concern.
• Brass: Brass fittings are resistant to corrosion and widely used in low-pressure systems, but they lack the strength required for high-pressure applications.
• Composite materials (for example, plastic or polymer): Lightweight and corrosion-resistant, these fittings are suitable for certain specialized applications but may lack durability under extreme pressures or temperatures.

Prioritize materials that align with your operating environment and hydraulic system needs.

3. Understanding Pressure Ratings

Hydraulic systems operate under pressure, and your fittings must be able to handle it. Always choose fittings with a pressure rating that meets or exceeds your system’s requirements. Working pressure should be well below the fitting’s burst pressure to ensure safety. A mismatch in pressure ratings can compromise your system’s integrity, potentially leading to costly or even dangerous outcomes.

4. Temperature Tolerance

Temperature swings can significantly impact the performance of your fittings. Hydraulic systems may encounter extreme heat or cold. The materials you select must withstand both the environmental conditions and the temperature of the fluid inside. Stainless steel and other specialized alloys often excel in extreme temperature applications, offering the durability required to maintain system efficiency.

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5. Application-Specific Needs

Not all hydraulic systems are used for the same purposes, so application-specific needs should always guide your decision. For example, high-pressure systems in industrial machinery will require robust fittings capable of withstanding intense demands. Meanwhile, agricultural equipment may prioritize ease of replacement and cost-effectiveness.

Think about the functions your hydraulic system must perform. Will it involve exposure to chemicals? Will the system endure frequent vibrations or sudden movements? By defining your system’s unique challenges, you can focus on fittings designed to meet them effectively.

6. Precision Sizing and Fit

The size and type of the fitting will impact your system’s overall efficiency. Selecting a fitting with the wrong size or dimensions can cause delays, leakage, and inconsistent flow rates. Familiarize yourself with key sizing details, such as:

• diameter of the hose or piping
• thread size for proper connections
• length of the fitting, especially for complex assemblies
• space considerations, particularly in tight setups where larger fittings might not fit

Take accurate measurements before purchasing, and consult sizing charts to avoid errors.

7. Importance of Industry Standards

Industry certifications are an essential indicator of quality. Fittings that meet ISO or SAE standards are generally reliable, safe, and compatible with commonly used system components. Choosing fittings that adhere to these benchmarks ensures your system’s longevity and minimizes the potential for errors stemming from substandard products.

8. Impact of Environmental Conditions

Fittings don’t operate in a vacuum—the surrounding environment can heavily influence their durability and performance. For example, fittings used in wet or humid climates should provide rust resistance, while systems exposed to saltwater demand corrosion-resistant materials like stainless steel. Dusty or sandy environments benefit from tight-sealing fittings to prevent contamination.

Addressing these considerations will help you select fittings that thrive in your specific operating conditions.

9. Evaluating Suppliers

A reliable supplier can make a world of difference when purchasing hydraulic hose fittings. Look for companies with a proven track record, robust product offerings, and strong customer support.

Suppliers who specialize in hydraulic hose assemblies often provide a wider range of compatible fittings, ensuring you can source all necessary components from one trusted provider. This can save you time and prevent costly mistakes. Don’t hesitate to check reviews or talk to other customers to confirm a supplier’s reputation before committing.

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10. Consult Experts When in Doubt